In the inaugural episode of this ongoing experiment, Shadi and
Damir talk about how inherent tensions in American identity—between
inclusion and assimilation—are being tugged apart in perhaps
About the Podcast
We’re Damir Marusic and Shadi Hamid. We live in Washington DC and have been friends for a while. One of us works at a magazine, another thinks in a tank. The idea behind the podcast is to try out ideas in the hope of getting considered push-back—in real-time. We talk politics, ideas, culture, and current events. Civil discussion, maybe even a bit odd. But hopefully fun.